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TV Expert Interviews / Leadership / Nov 20, 2021 / Posted by Susan R. Madsen / 1098

Why Women’s Leadership Journeys are Different from Men’s (video)


In this Expert Insight Interview, Susan Madsen discusses women in leadership. Susan Madsen is considered one of the top global thought leaders on the topic of women in leadership. Her research has been featured in the US News and World Report, The Atlantic, The New York Times, etc. She also has an imposing array of books, including a couple of new ones geared towards preparing young women to lead.

This Expert Insight Interview discusses:

  • Why women’s leadership journeys are different from men’s
  • The fact that most women are not raised or socialized to be leaders
  • How women expect too much of themselves when applying for leadership positions

Leadership Journey

A woman’s leadership journey is very different from that of a man. The differences start from birth because women are socialized so differently. Even though many people say that they raise their daughters and sons exactly the same way, the research shows a big difference between boys and girls even in home environments.

Decades of research have shown that boys are generally paid for their chores, and girls are not. This leads girls to grow up thinking that they need to serve, which makes it difficult for them to negotiate.


No matter how much parents think that they’re raising their boys and girls in the same way, this is not the case 99.9% of the time. Boys are much more often raised and socialized to see themselves as future leaders than girls are. So, women in the workplace are often not even thinking about taking the path of leadership.

Susan has interviewed many women leaders, and interestingly, most of them have said that they had never thought about becoming leaders until they were very close to that leadership position.


Some men may apply for a leadership position even though they fulfill one or two of the ten criteria required, whereas women might be discouraged because they “only” meet seven or eight, and not all ten.

The research is quite clear with numerous studies that if men have about 50% or 60% of the qualifications required for a promotion, job, or public office, they’ll often consider that good enough. On the other hand, women don’t think they’re good enough for a position until they have 90% to 100% of the required qualifications.

Our Host

John is the Amazon bestselling author of Winning the Battle for Sales: Lessons on Closing Every Deal from the World’s Greatest Military Victories and Social Upheaval: How to Win at Social Selling. A globally acknowledged Sales & Marketing thought leader, speaker, and strategist, he has conducted over 1500 video interviews of thought leaders for Sales POP! online sales magazine & YouTube Channel and for audio podcast channels where Sales POP! is rated in the top 2% of most popular shows out of 3,320,580 podcasts globally, ranked by Listen Score. He is CSMO at Pipeliner CRM. In his spare time, John is an avid Martial Artist.

About Author

Dr. Susan R. Madsen speaks, coaches, writes and consults around topics related to developing and advancing women as leaders. Her passion is to facilitate opportunities for women to thrive. Her mission is to unleash their influence in business, education, government, politics, and communities.

Author's Publications on Amazon

This book focuses on the lifetime development of ten strong, competent, and fascinating women governors. It details the commonalities and perspectives of ten women on their own personal journeys in developing leadership throughout childhood, youth, young adulthood, and adulthood.
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This book is about preparing women-specifically teens and young adults to become leaders. No matter where you are on life's path, it will motivate, educate, challenge, and propel you forward in your journey to influence in righteous ways.
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'Gender, Communication, and the Leadership Gap' is the sixth volume in the 'Women and Leadership: Research, Theory, and Practice' series. The purpose of this volume is to highlight connections between the fields of communication and leadership to help address the problem of underrepresentation of women…
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'Gender, Media, and Organization: Challenging Mis(s)Representations of Women Leaders and Managers' is the fourth volume in the 'Women and Leadership: Research, Theory, and Practice' series. This volume addresses the lack of critical attention in leadership research to how women leaders and professionals are represented in…
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'The Handbook of Research on Gender and Leadership' will appeal to scholars and advanced students in leadership and entrepreneurship. It will be essential reading for leadership coaches, practitioners, and business people, particularly those who facilitate leadership programs for women.
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'More Women on Boards: An International Perspective' is the seventh volume in the 'Women and Leadership: Research, Theory, and Practice' book series. The purpose of this volume is to explore the complexity of issues related to increasing the number of women on boards of directors…
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Based on years of research, this book provides an analysis of the data gathered from extensive interviews with university presidents. Each of these women offers candid information about their lifelong journey to becoming a leader.
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'Theorizing Women and Leadership: New Insights and Contributions from Multiple Perspectives' is the fifth volume in the 'Women and Leadership: Research, Theory, and Practice' series. The purpose of this volume is to provide a forum for women to theorize about women’s leadership in multiple ways…
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'Women and Leadership around the World' is the third volume in a new series of books (Women and Leadership: Research, Theory, and Practice). The purpose of this volume is to explore areas of women’s leadership in four regions around the world: the Middle East, Europe,…
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'Women and Leadership in Higher Education' is the first volume in 'Women and Leadership: Research, Theory, and Practice' series of books. This volume focuses on the field of higher education, particularly within the context of the United States—a sector that serves a majority of students…
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'Women as Global Leaders' is the second volume in the new 'Women and Leadership: Research, Theory, and Practice' book series. The purpose of this volume is to provide the reader with current conceptualizations and theories related to women as global leaders, recent empirical investigations of…
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This volume brings together research from leading scholars with stories from women leaders in diverse sectors to provide insights from their leadership journeys.
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