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The New Sales Mindset: Why “Passionate Ambivalence” Is Your Secret Weapon (video)

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In a world drowning in generic sales advice—you know the kind, all “Always Be Closing” mantras and high-pressure tactics—a new philosophy is emerging. It’s a refreshing take that challenges everything you thought you knew about closing a deal. This isn’t about being a slick salesperson; it’s about being an expert partner.

This radical approach comes from Sue Heilbronner, a seasoned sales and leadership coach, who shared her insights during an interview with John Golden on the “Expert Inside Interview” series. Her upcoming book, Never Ask for the Sale: Supercharge Your Business with the Power of Passionate Ambivalence, offers a framework that’s as practical as it is powerful. It’s designed for anyone who wants to sell with confidence, build genuine connections, and achieve better results.

This guide breaks down the core concepts from Bronner’s interview, offering actionable takeaways to help you transform your sales strategy.

Ditch the “Always Ask for the Sale” Dogma

Traditional sales training often teaches that the final, explicit ask is the pinnacle of the sales process. But Bronner argues this approach is not only outdated—it’s actively harmful.

The problem? An explicit ask can put you in a desperate, submissive position. It signals to the prospect that you need their business more than they need your solution. Instead, Bronner suggests a different path.

The key is to reframe the “close” not as a dramatic finale, but as the natural next step in a collaborative journey. When the entire process is focused on creating value and building a strong partnership, the decision to move forward feels mutual, not transactional.

Actionable Takeaway: Shift your language from a plea (“Would you like to buy?”) to an assumption of partnership (“Here’s how we can move forward together.”). Focus on building momentum so that the close feels like an effortless transition.

Your Mindset Is Everything: The Equal Business Stature Principle

Many salespeople, especially those new to the field, feel they are “less than” their prospects. This internal narrative of subservience is a confidence killer.

Bronner’s solution is simple yet profound: embrace an Equal Business Stature mindset. View every interaction as a peer-to-peer business conversation. Your role isn’t to beg for approval, but to bring expertise, insights, and solutions to the table. You are an equal partner in solving a problem.

Actionable Takeaway: Before a meeting, take a moment to remind yourself of the value you bring. Thoroughly research the prospect’s business and industry so you can offer relevant, high-level insights. This preparation empowers you to see yourself as a trusted advisor, not just a seller.

Unlocking Your Potential with “Passionate Ambivalence”

This is Bronner’s signature concept and the cornerstone of her philosophy. It’s a powerful blend of two seemingly opposite emotions.

  • Passion: This is the genuine excitement you feel for your product or service. Let your enthusiasm shine through. It’s what makes you an authentic, engaging partner.
  • Ambivalence: This is a healthy detachment from the outcome of any single deal. You want the sale, but you don’t need it. You can walk away from a deal that isn’t a good fit.

This unique combination works because it eliminates the biggest deal-killer: desperation. Prospects can sense desperation a mile away, and it instantly erodes your credibility. By being passionately ambivalent, you show confidence, build trust, and maintain objectivity.

Actionable Takeaway: Before your next sales call, take a moment to ground yourself. Remember, your purpose is to help, not to chase. If a deal isn’t a good fit, be honest about it. It protects your time and reputation.

Lead with Value, Not a Hard Sell

The old-school belief that you should “save the good stuff” is long dead. Today’s buyers are savvy; they expect value from your very first interaction.

If you can’t provide a valuable insight or a tangible takeaway within the first 15 minutes of a meeting, you’re already behind. This isn’t about giving away the farm; it’s about demonstrating your expertise through concrete examples and compelling stories.

Actionable Takeaway: Prepare a “value nugget” for every meeting—an idea, resource, or piece of data that is tailored specifically to the prospect’s needs. The more value you give upfront, the more trust you build.

The Ultimate Test: Letting Go of Bad-Fit Deals

One of the hardest things for any salesperson to do is walk away from a deal. But a pipeline full of low-probability deals is a liability, not an asset.

Bronner urges you to have the courage to let go of deals that aren’t a good fit. This isn’t just about saving time; it’s about focusing your energy on real opportunities. It’s about building a reputation for being discerning and honest.

Actionable Takeaway: Regularly review your pipeline. Be ruthless in qualifying out deals that aren’t progressing or that you have a gut feeling aren’t right. Use objective criteria to assess fit, not wishful thinking.

Beyond Sales: Applying Passionate Ambivalence to Leadership and Hiring

The principles of passionate ambivalence aren’t just for sales; they are a blueprint for effective leadership.

  • In Hiring: Avoid “desperation hires.” When you’re in a hurry to fill a role, you might overlook red flags. Be willing to walk away from a candidate who isn’t the right fit, even if the market is tight.
  • In Leadership: Lead with confidence and candor. Don’t let the fear of losing an employee prevent you from giving honest, critical feedback. True leaders prioritize mutual fit and long-term health over short-term wins.

Actionable Takeaway: Before making a key leadership decision, ask yourself: “Am I acting from a place of passion and confidence, or from fear and desperation?” Your answer will guide you toward a better outcome.

Your Next Steps

Ready to dive deeper and start applying these principles? Sue Heilbronner’s insights can change the way you approach not just sales, but your entire career.

  • Read the book: Keep an eye out for Never Ask for the Sale: Supercharge Your Business with the Power of Passionate Ambivalence.
  • Get the free download: Visit neveraskedforthesale.com for resources to help you apply these principles at every stage of the sales process.
  • Consider coaching: Sue offers executive coaching to help leaders and sales professionals unlock their full potential.

Ultimately, Bronner’s approach is a call to a more authentic, fulfilling, and effective way of doing business. By embracing passionate ambivalence, you can build trust, win better deals, and create more satisfying professional relationships—for both you and your customers.

What’s one thing you can do today to shift your mindset from desperation to passionate ambivalence?

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John is the Amazon bestselling author of Winning the Battle for Sales: Lessons on Closing Every Deal from the World’s Greatest Military Victories and Social Upheaval: How to Win at Social Selling. A globally acknowledged Sales & Marketing thought leader, speaker, and strategist, he has conducted over 1500 video interviews of thought leaders for Sales POP! online sales magazine & YouTube Channel and for audio podcast channels where Sales POP! is rated in the top 2% of most popular shows out of 3,320,580 podcasts globally, ranked by Listen Score. He is CSMO at Pipeliner CRM. In his spare time, John is an avid Martial Artist.

About Author

Sue is a sought-after speaker, startup CEO, mentor, adjunct professor of entrepreneurship, facilitator, strategic advisor, Conscious Leadership coach, co-founder of the MergeLane investment fund, creator of the Leadership Camp training program for high-potential leaders, former federal prosecutor, and a direct and fearless catalyst for change.

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