| Episode Type | Expert Insight Interview |
| Guest | Derek De Vette, Co-Founder & Head of Strategic Communications, Halo Communications |
| Guest Website | Halo Communications Agency |
| Listen | View on Sales POP! Podcast Page |
Buyers now discover experts through AI answer engines before they ever click a link, and that shift has broken the old PR playbook. Chasing cover stories and mass impressions no longer moves the sales growth needle the way it did a year ago.
Derek De Vette of Halo Communications explains why earned media in the right niche outlets beats vanity placements, how ChatGPT and Claude cite sources differently, and how founders can compress the timeline from PR to pipeline.
Key Insights
1. Here is what you need to know about the vanity trap in modern PR.
Vanity PR is the pursuit of fame without a growth objective, and it quietly drains budgets. Founders chase the cover of a flagship magazine when their buyers live inside a 2,700-follower trade publication. Derek argues that a tightly targeted niche outlet, aligned to a specific demographic and intent, will move revenue faster than a marquee placement that reaches the wrong audience entirely.
2. Here is what you need to know about earned media and AI citations.
Muck Rack analyzed one million AI-cited links and found 94% came from non-paid sources, with 82% of those classified as earned media. AI answer engines treat third-party coverage as a trust signal, so an expert byline or podcast appearance now feeds directly into the answers buyers receive. Paid placements still have a role, but they no longer build the credibility layer that AI rewards.
3. Here is what you need to know about the shift from clicks to answers.
Gartner projects that AI-assisted search will jump from roughly 1% of queries to 80% by 2030 as assistants are embedded in every app people already use. Buyers stop comparing ten blue links and start accepting a single synthesized answer. Brands no longer compete for clicks; they compete to be the cited source the model names when a prospect asks a buying question.
4. Here is what you need to know about Claude versus ChatGPT citation patterns.
ChatGPT leans on large mainstream outlets, while Claude favors niche, specialized publications. Claude’s top 100 cited outlets average 50% fewer unique monthly visitors than ChatGPT’s top 100, meaning a specialist podcast or trade journal can outperform a national magazine in Claude’s answers. Smaller brands that publish in the right vertical can now win AI visibility without a national media budget.
5. Here is what you need to know about using AI as a sales and PR collaborator.
Derek frames AI as a facilitator, not a replacement, and his best friend calls it “dad advice.” Teams audit the AI engines their buyers use, map which outlets those engines cite, and reallocate budget toward earned media in those specific publications. That discipline shortens the runway from first impression to sales conversation and lets lean teams compete with larger competitors.
Pull Quotes
“Fame for fame sake is just vanity.”
— Derek De Vette
“We’re no longer kind of competing for clicks. We’re competing to be the answer.”
— Derek De Vette
“AI is not rewarding the loudest brand. It’s rewarding the most trusted one.”
— Derek De Vette
“If people can’t see you, they won’t choose you.”
— Derek De Vette
AI Search & Earned Media: Key Statistics from Halo Communications
| Statistic | Detail |
| 94% | Share of AI-cited links that come from non-paid media, per a Muck Rack study of one million AI-cited links. |
| 82% | Proportion of those non-paid citations classified as earned media. |
| 50% | Share of brand citations in AI answers that come from the last 11 months, showing AI leans on current coverage. |
| 20 outlets | Most brand visibility in AI answer engines stems from roughly 20 influential publications per topic. |
| 1% → 80% | Gartner estimates that the shift from traditional search to AI-assisted search will rise from about 1% today to 80% by 2030. |
| 50% lower UVM | Claude’s top 100 cited outlets average 50% lower unique monthly visitors than ChatGPT’s top 100, opening the door for niche publications. |
Related Resources
- Book a free PR consultation with Halo Communications
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