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🎧 AI-Powered Healthcare Procurement & the Future of Sales

🎧 AI-Powered Healthcare Procurement & the Future of Sales

Tony Paquin is a healthcare technology entrepreneur with over 30 years of experience founding and scaling companies in regulated markets. As CEO and co-founder of iRemedy Healthcare, he leads an AI-enabled procurement platform that connects manufacturers directly with hospitals, government agencies, and patients — cutting costs, eliminating middlemen, and reshoring the US pharmaceutical supply chain. In this episode, Tony draws on three decades of software experience and 12 co-invented AI patents to explain why the current AI revolution is unlike anything he has witnessed before — and what it means for sales, business leadership, and the future of healthcare.

Topics covered:

  • Why AI is advancing in months, not years — and what that means for every professional
  • How AI will make great salespeople more valuable, not less
  • The concept of every employee becoming a “conductor of digital agents.”
  • Why experienced professionals have a competitive advantage over digital natives in the AI era
  • How iRemedy is using AI swarms to map and reshore the US pharmaceutical supply chain
  • Why investing in premium AI tools is a business essential, not a luxury

Whether you work in sales, healthcare, or technology, Tony’s perspective will reshape how you think about AI’s role in your career and your organisation. Visit iremedy.com to learn more.

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🎧  From Good Decision to No Decision: Sai Dhanak on the Inaction Trap

🎧 From Good Decision to No Decision: Sai Dhanak on the Inaction Trap

The AI Accountant: How Sai Dhanak Is Replacing the Billable Hour

Sai Dhanak is the CEO and co-founder of Deduction, a two-time startup exit veteran with four patents spanning cybersecurity, IoT, and service design. In this episode, Sai explains how a structural crisis in the US accounting industry — with 55% of CPAs approaching retirement — became the foundation for a new kind of AI-powered tax service that partners human CPAs with AI agents to file IRS-ready returns at a flat annual price.

Topics covered in this episode:

  • Why selling AI tools to accountants is the wrong answer to the CPA shortage
  • How Deduction’s email-based, human-in-the-loop model earns client trust
  • The pivot from direct-to-consumer to acquiring the retiring CPAs’ book of business
  • Why every service industry built on billable hours is facing disruption
  • The “inaction trap” — and how contrarian action opens unexpected doors
  • How Deduction onboarded over 1,200 clients in its first six weeks

Sai’s journey from London startup founder to two-exit US company builder is a masterclass in asking the right question before building the solution. Visit deduction.com to learn more or email taylor@deduction.com to get started.

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🎧 Value-Based Pricing

🎧 Value-Based Pricing

What if the biggest thing holding your consulting practice back isn’t your expertise — it’s your pricing model? In this episode, pricing and business development expert John Ray joins host John Golden to make a compelling case for leaving hourly billing behind. Drawing on over a decade of advising consultants, attorneys, coaches, and fractional executives, John explains how shifting to value-based pricing starts with a mindset change — and a much better conversation with your clients.

Topics covered in this episode:

  • Why hourly billing commoditizes your expertise and invites the wrong comparisons
  • The mindset barriers (inadequacy, comparison syndrome) that keep professionals from charging
  • How to conduct a value conversation that reveals what clients truly care about
  • The discovery questions that move a conversation into “priceless territory.”
  • Practical first steps for transitioning your practice to value-based pricing
  • Why silence is one of the most powerful tools in any pricing negotiation

John Ray is the author of The Generosity Mindset and host of The Price and Value Journey podcast. Visit johnray.co to download his free list of value conversation questions and book a consultation.

🎧 Why 63% of Small Business Calls Go Unanswered — And How AI Fixes It

🎧 Why 63% of Small Business Calls Go Unanswered — And How AI Fixes It

About the Guest

Kai Stone is the founder of StoneSystems.io, an AI-powered automation and CRM platform purpose-built for contractors. Starting from his parents’ home in Austin, Texas, Kai first cut his teeth in business by managing his family’s Airbnb properties, where he saw firsthand how simple technology could transform operations for people who weren’t tech-savvy. That insight became the foundation of StoneSystems, which has helped over 1,000 contractors scale their businesses in just over a year through a combination of AI-driven lead capture, automated appointment booking, website development, and no-nonsense digital advertising — all at a price point of $297 per month.

Known for his raw, unscripted personal brand and his refusal to follow corporate marketing playbooks, Kai has also built a growing YouTube channel where he shares behind-the-scenes business lessons with zero editing or scripted content. His unconventional approach has resonated deeply with the contractor community, proving that authenticity can be a powerful competitive advantage.

In this expert insight interview, SalesPOP! Host John Golden and Kai Stone explore why most contractors and small businesses are hemorrhaging leads without realizing it — and how AI automation, paired with authentic personal branding, can fix the problem fast. The conversation covers everything from the mechanics of AI-powered missed-call recovery systems to why showing up in ChatGPT and Perplexity search results matters just as much as Google rankings today. Listeners will walk away with a practical, low-budget playbook for building a personal brand, capturing lost leads, and positioning a business for the AI era.

Key Insights

1. Your “Trusted First Touch” Is Everything — So Stop Overproducing It

To begin with, Kai challenges the dominant marketing playbook for contractors: the hyper-edited, high-pressure ad format. He explains that contractors are naturally skeptical and can quickly detect inauthentic sales pitches. As a result, his advertising strategy leans into directness and imperfection — no shouting at the camera, no outrageous guarantees, just straightforward talk about what StoneSystems does and why it works. This no-BS approach, combined with layered retargeting campaigns, means that by the time a prospect speaks with his sales team, they already feel like they know Kai. The takeaway is that the first impression your brand makes doesn’t need to be polished — it needs to feel real.

2. 63% of Small Business Calls Go Unanswered — And That’s a Goldmine

Next, Kai highlights a staggering data point: roughly 63% of phone calls to small businesses go unanswered. For a contractor, each missed call is a potential job lost permanently, because the customer simply moves on to the next name on the list. StoneSystems addresses this with AI voice bots that can either answer the call and book an appointment or, at a minimum, send an automated text acknowledging the missed call and keeping the conversation alive. Kai illustrates this with a personal anecdote about calling eight barbers before one — his eighth choice — captured his business simply by having an auto-text booking link in place. The implication is that the barrier to capturing significantly more revenue is often not better marketing but just better responsiveness.

3. Personal Branding Is Non-Negotiable — Even If It’s Uncomfortable

Similarly, Kai and John agree that putting a face behind the business is no longer optional for small business owners. Kai notes that some contractors resist putting their face online, but those who do will inevitably outcompete those who don’t. He recommends a simple, low-cost starting point: link an Instagram and Facebook account, post before-and-after project photos or videos, and run hyper-local Facebook ads for as little as $5 to $10 a day within a 10-mile radius. The technology platforms themselves — Meta’s AI and Google’s algorithms — are incentivized to serve that content to the right local audience, meaning the platform does much of the targeting work for free. The message is that the hardest part isn’t the technology or the cost — it’s just stepping in front of the camera.

4. AI Search Is the New SEO — And Most Businesses Don’t Even Know It

On another front, the conversation takes an important turn toward AI-powered search. John urges listeners to search for their own name and company not just on Google, but on ChatGPT, Perplexity, Claude, and Grok. The results are often eye-opening: many businesses that rank well on traditional search simply don’t appear in AI-generated responses. Kai confirms that StoneSystems already helps clients optimize for AI search visibility. He notes that the opportunity is wide open precisely because so few businesses are paying attention to it yet. In other words, AI search optimization today is comparable to Google SEO in its earliest days — the first movers will have an outsized advantage.

5. You Don’t Need to Invent — Just Copy, Improve, and Execute

Finally, Kai pushes back on the myth that entrepreneurship requires a novel invention. He points to companies like Lovable AI and even Amazon as proof that building a slightly different or marginally better version of an existing product can generate enormous returns. Even capturing a fraction of a percent of a large market can make someone a millionaire. The real barrier, he argues, is not the idea — it’s the willingness to pick a path and execute through the inevitable rough patches rather than constantly jumping to the next shiny opportunity. Consequently, for contractors and small business owners, the lesson is to focus on consistently executing proven systems rather than searching for breakthrough innovation.

Pull Quotes

“Contractors are very good at smelling BS.”

— Kai Stone, on why authentic, direct advertising outperforms hype

“The eighth person didn’t answer the phone, but they had an auto text that said, ‘Hey, sorry I’m with a customer. You can book right here.’ Boom. Booked and paid on the spot.”

— Kai Stone, on how simple automation won his business over seven competitors

“Go to the different LLMs, put your company name in, put your name in, and just see what comes up. I guarantee you’re going to be surprised.”

— John Golden, urging listeners to audit their AI search presence

“AI is only as good as the user. It’s like steering your ship — it’s only as good as the captain.”

— Kai Stone, on the limits of AI without proper context and prompting

By the Numbers

Stat Context
1,000+ contractors The number of businesses StoneSystems has helped scale in just over one year
$297/month StoneSystems’ pricing — deliberately low to drive high volume and retention
63% Approximate percentage of phone calls to small businesses that go unanswered
$5–$10/day Kai’s recommended starting budget for hyper-local Facebook ads for contractors
8 calls Number of barbers Kai called before one had automation in place to capture his business

 

Related Resources

  • StoneSystems.io — Kai Stone’s AI automation and CRM platform for contractors
  • Kai Stone’s YouTube Channel — Unscripted, behind-the-scenes business content (search “Kyone YouTube”)
  • Lovable AI — AI-powered app builder referenced in the conversation (lovable.dev)
🎧 Trust, Transparency & Smarter Software Decisions

🎧 Trust, Transparency & Smarter Software Decisions

In this episode of the Expert Insight Interview, host John Golden sits down with Adnan Malik, co-founder and CEO of Softwarefinder — a platform redefining how businesses find and select software by putting trust and transparency at the center of every recommendation.

Adnan shares a sobering reality: 70–80% of B2B software buyers end up dissatisfied with their purchase. The culprit isn’t poor products — it’s a buying process driven by noise, pressure, and pay-to-play platforms that prioritize vendor budgets over buyer needs.

Softwarefinder takes a radically different approach. Every vendor pays the same cost per lead, eliminating the financial bias that skews recommendations on traditional platforms. Buyers connect with trained human consultants — not algorithms — who ask the right questions and match them to the best-fit software in about 10 minutes.

In this conversation, Adnan and John explore:

  • Why the pay-to-play model has run its course
  • How Softwarefinder trains consultants across 40–50 software verticals
  • The role of AI as a support tool — not a replacement — for human judgment
  • How verified reviews are maintained in an era of fake B2C feedback
  • The explosion of niche software categories post-AI
  • Why trust is becoming the most important competitive differentiator for any business

With nearly 100,000 vendors and 14,500 categories on their platform, Softwarefinder is scaling fast — but Adnan believes the future belongs to businesses that keep humans at the heart of complex decisions.

Visit softwarefinder.com to book a free 10-minute consultation or to connect qualified buyers with your software solution.

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🎧 Immersive Storytelling, Spatial Computing, and the Future of Event Marketing

🎧 Immersive Storytelling, Spatial Computing, and the Future of Event Marketing

About the Guest: Amir Berenjian is the founder and CEO of REM 5 Studios, a Minneapolis-based production house helping global brands leverage VR, AR, and spatial computing. After a career in investment banking. Berenjian tried the Oculus Rift in 2016, saw the potential of immersive technology to democratize experiences, and left finance to found REM 5. Since then, he’s immersed over 150,000 people in VR headsets across clients ranging from pro sports teams to the Gates Foundation.

Episode Overview

SalesPOP! host John Golden and Amir Berenjian explore how immersive technology is reshaping brand storytelling at events. Berenjian shares real-world examples and breaks down the current platform landscape. He makes the case that spatial computing will become the primary way we interact with AI.

Key Insights

1. Start with Distribution, Not the Demo Berenjian’s first question isn’t about the creative — it’s about who’s putting on the headset and where. VR content without a distribution plan is just an expensive reel. For his clients, events are the answer.

2. VR Expands the Market — It Doesn’t Replace It. Minnesota United FC’s game-day VR experience gave fans access to the locker room and tunnel. Drawing lines at the State Fair and driving real ticket sales.

3. Immersive Content Creates Memories, Not Just Messages. The Gates Foundation’sVR polio campaign, shown at 50+ global events, including the UN General Assembly, resonates with policymakers because the brain processes it as a real experience.

4. The Hardware Has Arrived Meta Quest 3 delivers VR/AR with hand tracking for $300. Apple Vision Pro is redefining interface design. Ray-Ban smart glasses offer AI access in a normal form factor.

5. Spatial Computing Is AI’s Next Interface. Berenjian argues immersive tech and AI are converging — hand gestures and voice will replace typing and dropdown menus as the way we interact with AI systems.

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🎧 The 3 Things Every Sales Leader Must Get Right

🎧 The 3 Things Every Sales Leader Must Get Right

Guest: Steven Rosen, MBA — Founder of STAR Results, executive sales leadership coach, and author of Focused: The Leadership Discipline That Protects Performance from Distraction

When sales numbers slip, most organizations look at the reps. Steven Rosen says that’s the wrong place to look. In this condensed highlight from his SalesPOP! Expert Insight Interview with John Golden, Steven draws on 30+ years in sales leadership to explain why the real breakdowns happen at the management level — and what disciplined leaders do differently.

Key Takeaways:

  • It’s a leadership problem, not a talent problem. Companies reflexively blame reps when performance dips, but the root cause almost always traces back to how managers coach, inspect, and enforce standards.
  • Discipline erodes gradually. No single lapse looks critical on its own. But small concessions — a skipped pipeline review, a lenient quarter — compound until the damage shows up in the forecast.
  • “The Three Things” framework. Steven’s career-long practice: identify three critical priorities, communicate them relentlessly, and say no to everything else. Simplicity drives execution.
  • Coaching is the highest-leverage investment. Moving even a few mid-tier reps into the upper tier through skilled coaching produces an outsized revenue impact yet most managers have never been trained to coach.
  • Forecasting requires real inspection. Asking “how’s it going?” is not a pipeline review. Reliable forecasts come from specific, sometimes uncomfortable questions about every opportunity.

Quotes from Steven Rosen:

“We always default right to the salespeople. We start tinkering with the sales team — but we ignore where the real issue lies, which is in the leadership.”

“If you have a sales leader who is an excellent coach and knows how to coach, they are the greatest revenue multiplier you’re going to have.”

Links: Steven’s website: https://starresults.com | Book on Amazon: Focused | LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/stevenrosen

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🎧 The Winning Mindset: Larry Weidel on Community, Discipline, and Growth

🎧 The Winning Mindset: Larry Weidel on Community, Discipline, and Growth

Most people assume the top one percent got there on raw talent. Larry Weidel, founder of the Big Hitters Community and author of Serial Winner, sees it differently. In this Sales POP! episode, he breaks down the habits, systems, and relationships that actually drive elite performance.

Here’s what you’ll take away from this conversation: why surrounding yourself with the right people accelerates your results faster than any course or book alone; how to build a repeatable “cycle of winning” that turns progress into a habit rather than a lucky streak; and why the most successful leaders Larry has met are also the most humble and coachable people in the room.

Larry also challenges listeners to rethink how they invest their time and money—pointing out that the same people who won’t spend a dollar on professional development will spend thousands on entertainment without a second thought. If you’re ready to break that pattern and build something lasting, press play.

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