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🎧 Turn Your Business Book Into a Revenue Tool

🎧 Turn Your Business Book Into a Revenue Tool

Susan Friedman is the founder of Aviva Publishing & Marketing, a nonfiction book marketing specialist with over 30 years of experience and 18 published books — including one title that sold over 500,000 copies to a single corporate buyer. In this episode, she challenges the assumptions that sink most business authors and lays out a strategic framework for turning a book into a genuine revenue-generating asset.

Topics covered in this episode:

  • Why authors must stop thinking of their book as a product and start treating it as a business tool
  • How niche and vertical market positioning drives bulk sales and long-term visibility
  • The role of speaking, coaching, and corporate training as the real ROI of a business book
  • How to overcome imposter syndrome before and after launch
  • Why sustained, consistent marketing — not a big-publisher deal or Amazon listing — determines a book’s success
  • Where AI genuinely helps authors and where it can damage credibility

Ready to give your book a real marketing strategy? Connect with Susan at avivapubs.com.

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🎧 Why 63% of Small Business Calls Go Unanswered — And How AI Fixes It

🎧 Why 63% of Small Business Calls Go Unanswered — And How AI Fixes It

About the Guest

Kai Stone is the founder of StoneSystems.io, an AI-powered automation and CRM platform purpose-built for contractors. Starting from his parents’ home in Austin, Texas, Kai first cut his teeth in business by managing his family’s Airbnb properties, where he saw firsthand how simple technology could transform operations for people who weren’t tech-savvy. That insight became the foundation of StoneSystems, which has helped over 1,000 contractors scale their businesses in just over a year through a combination of AI-driven lead capture, automated appointment booking, website development, and no-nonsense digital advertising — all at a price point of $297 per month.

Known for his raw, unscripted personal brand and his refusal to follow corporate marketing playbooks, Kai has also built a growing YouTube channel where he shares behind-the-scenes business lessons with zero editing or scripted content. His unconventional approach has resonated deeply with the contractor community, proving that authenticity can be a powerful competitive advantage.

In this expert insight interview, SalesPOP! Host John Golden and Kai Stone explore why most contractors and small businesses are hemorrhaging leads without realizing it — and how AI automation, paired with authentic personal branding, can fix the problem fast. The conversation covers everything from the mechanics of AI-powered missed-call recovery systems to why showing up in ChatGPT and Perplexity search results matters just as much as Google rankings today. Listeners will walk away with a practical, low-budget playbook for building a personal brand, capturing lost leads, and positioning a business for the AI era.

Key Insights

1. Your “Trusted First Touch” Is Everything — So Stop Overproducing It

To begin with, Kai challenges the dominant marketing playbook for contractors: the hyper-edited, high-pressure ad format. He explains that contractors are naturally skeptical and can quickly detect inauthentic sales pitches. As a result, his advertising strategy leans into directness and imperfection — no shouting at the camera, no outrageous guarantees, just straightforward talk about what StoneSystems does and why it works. This no-BS approach, combined with layered retargeting campaigns, means that by the time a prospect speaks with his sales team, they already feel like they know Kai. The takeaway is that the first impression your brand makes doesn’t need to be polished — it needs to feel real.

2. 63% of Small Business Calls Go Unanswered — And That’s a Goldmine

Next, Kai highlights a staggering data point: roughly 63% of phone calls to small businesses go unanswered. For a contractor, each missed call is a potential job lost permanently, because the customer simply moves on to the next name on the list. StoneSystems addresses this with AI voice bots that can either answer the call and book an appointment or, at a minimum, send an automated text acknowledging the missed call and keeping the conversation alive. Kai illustrates this with a personal anecdote about calling eight barbers before one — his eighth choice — captured his business simply by having an auto-text booking link in place. The implication is that the barrier to capturing significantly more revenue is often not better marketing but just better responsiveness.

3. Personal Branding Is Non-Negotiable — Even If It’s Uncomfortable

Similarly, Kai and John agree that putting a face behind the business is no longer optional for small business owners. Kai notes that some contractors resist putting their face online, but those who do will inevitably outcompete those who don’t. He recommends a simple, low-cost starting point: link an Instagram and Facebook account, post before-and-after project photos or videos, and run hyper-local Facebook ads for as little as $5 to $10 a day within a 10-mile radius. The technology platforms themselves — Meta’s AI and Google’s algorithms — are incentivized to serve that content to the right local audience, meaning the platform does much of the targeting work for free. The message is that the hardest part isn’t the technology or the cost — it’s just stepping in front of the camera.

4. AI Search Is the New SEO — And Most Businesses Don’t Even Know It

On another front, the conversation takes an important turn toward AI-powered search. John urges listeners to search for their own name and company not just on Google, but on ChatGPT, Perplexity, Claude, and Grok. The results are often eye-opening: many businesses that rank well on traditional search simply don’t appear in AI-generated responses. Kai confirms that StoneSystems already helps clients optimize for AI search visibility. He notes that the opportunity is wide open precisely because so few businesses are paying attention to it yet. In other words, AI search optimization today is comparable to Google SEO in its earliest days — the first movers will have an outsized advantage.

5. You Don’t Need to Invent — Just Copy, Improve, and Execute

Finally, Kai pushes back on the myth that entrepreneurship requires a novel invention. He points to companies like Lovable AI and even Amazon as proof that building a slightly different or marginally better version of an existing product can generate enormous returns. Even capturing a fraction of a percent of a large market can make someone a millionaire. The real barrier, he argues, is not the idea — it’s the willingness to pick a path and execute through the inevitable rough patches rather than constantly jumping to the next shiny opportunity. Consequently, for contractors and small business owners, the lesson is to focus on consistently executing proven systems rather than searching for breakthrough innovation.

Pull Quotes

“Contractors are very good at smelling BS.”

— Kai Stone, on why authentic, direct advertising outperforms hype

“The eighth person didn’t answer the phone, but they had an auto text that said, ‘Hey, sorry I’m with a customer. You can book right here.’ Boom. Booked and paid on the spot.”

— Kai Stone, on how simple automation won his business over seven competitors

“Go to the different LLMs, put your company name in, put your name in, and just see what comes up. I guarantee you’re going to be surprised.”

— John Golden, urging listeners to audit their AI search presence

“AI is only as good as the user. It’s like steering your ship — it’s only as good as the captain.”

— Kai Stone, on the limits of AI without proper context and prompting

By the Numbers

Stat Context
1,000+ contractors The number of businesses StoneSystems has helped scale in just over one year
$297/month StoneSystems’ pricing — deliberately low to drive high volume and retention
63% Approximate percentage of phone calls to small businesses that go unanswered
$5–$10/day Kai’s recommended starting budget for hyper-local Facebook ads for contractors
8 calls Number of barbers Kai called before one had automation in place to capture his business

 

Related Resources

  • StoneSystems.io — Kai Stone’s AI automation and CRM platform for contractors
  • Kai Stone’s YouTube Channel — Unscripted, behind-the-scenes business content (search “Kyone YouTube”)
  • Lovable AI — AI-powered app builder referenced in the conversation (lovable.dev)
🎧 Trust, Transparency & Smarter Software Decisions

🎧 Trust, Transparency & Smarter Software Decisions

In this episode of the Expert Insight Interview, host John Golden sits down with Adnan Malik, co-founder and CEO of Softwarefinder — a platform redefining how businesses find and select software by putting trust and transparency at the center of every recommendation.

Adnan shares a sobering reality: 70–80% of B2B software buyers end up dissatisfied with their purchase. The culprit isn’t poor products — it’s a buying process driven by noise, pressure, and pay-to-play platforms that prioritize vendor budgets over buyer needs.

Softwarefinder takes a radically different approach. Every vendor pays the same cost per lead, eliminating the financial bias that skews recommendations on traditional platforms. Buyers connect with trained human consultants — not algorithms — who ask the right questions and match them to the best-fit software in about 10 minutes.

In this conversation, Adnan and John explore:

  • Why the pay-to-play model has run its course
  • How Softwarefinder trains consultants across 40–50 software verticals
  • The role of AI as a support tool — not a replacement — for human judgment
  • How verified reviews are maintained in an era of fake B2C feedback
  • The explosion of niche software categories post-AI
  • Why trust is becoming the most important competitive differentiator for any business

With nearly 100,000 vendors and 14,500 categories on their platform, Softwarefinder is scaling fast — but Adnan believes the future belongs to businesses that keep humans at the heart of complex decisions.

Visit softwarefinder.com to book a free 10-minute consultation or to connect qualified buyers with your software solution.

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🎧 The interview and guest’s expertise Google Ads

🎧 The interview and guest’s expertise Google Ads

Most businesses launch Google Ads campaigns expecting a flood of leads and end up with nothing but a drained budget. In this episode of the Expert Inside Interview, John Golden sits down with Jeff Coleman, founder of Four Factor Marketing and a Google Ads strategist with more than two decades of hands-on experience, to unpack why the majority of paid search campaigns underperform—and how to fix that.

Coleman walks through his persona-driven approach to building what he calls a “lead engine,” a systematic process that connects keyword intent with landing page relevance so every dollar works harder. He explains why chasing the number-one ad position often backfires, how negative keywords can save thousands in wasted spend, and what most advertisers get wrong about Quality Score.

The conversation also tackles the growing role of AI in Google Ads, from automated campaign types like Performance Max to the emerging ad landscape inside AI-powered search engines. Whether you manage your own campaigns or work with an agency, this episode is packed with practical takeaways you can apply immediately.

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🎧 Why Thinking Is Your Last Real Competitive Edge

🎧 Why Thinking Is Your Last Real Competitive Edge

In a recent Sales POP! conversation, advisor Simon Bowen made a point that’s hard to shake: AI isn’t your biggest threat — reactive thinking is.

As technology absorbs more routine work, the leaders and salespeople who win will be the ones who think deliberately, not just quickly. Bowen’s advice is simple but countercultural — pause before responding, create space for reflection, and stop treating speed as a virtue.

The best decisions rarely come from rushing. They come from the moment of silence most people are too uncomfortable to allow.

Listen to the full episode on Sales POP! for more insights from Simon Bowen.

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🎧  What Actually Happens When You Add AI Voice to Your Pipeline

🎧 What Actually Happens When You Add AI Voice to Your Pipeline

AI voice agents aren’t replacing salespeople — they’re handling the work salespeople shouldn’t be doing anyway. Thoughtly’s Will breaks down exactly how companies are using conversational AI to follow up faster, re-engage cold leads, and book more meetings without burning out their teams. One property management client booked 650 meetings in 90 days. The strategy is simpler than you’d expect — and it starts with knowing where humans shouldn’t be spending their time.

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🎧 How Do Luxury Brands Command Premium Prices?

🎧 How Do Luxury Brands Command Premium Prices?

Building a luxury brand starts with one question: Are you ready to lead, not follow? Kathryn Porritt, founder of Iconic Empire, reveals why premium positioning isn’t about working harder—it’s about thinking differently.

The secret? Start at the top. Launch with $100K+ offers for elite clients first, then scale down if desired. This flips the traditional model, creating instant credibility and powerful testimonials.

True luxury demands hyper-specialization. You’re not “the best coach”—you’re the expert who solves one specific, high-value problem better than anyone else. High-net-worth clients spot pretenders immediately.

The luxury market is expanding while the middle disappears. If you have genuine mastery and the courage to stand alone, now is your moment. Visit iconicempire.com to calculate your premium pricing potential.

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🎧  Blueprint for Supplement Success in 2026

🎧 Blueprint for Supplement Success in 2026

The supplement game has changed completely. John Smiddy, who’s launched over 100 products and generated $100M+ in sales, joined Sales POP! host John Golden to break down what’s actually working now.

His biggest revelation? AI is transforming how people buy supplements. Consumers are completing entire purchases inside ChatGPT conversations—no Google browsing required. That means your product data needs to be AI-ready.

Smiddy’s counterintuitive advice: launch on Amazon first, not your own website. Why? Instant credibility and conversion rates that beat DTC sites. Build reviews and social proof there, then expand.

The bottom line: create unique formulations, optimize for AI discovery, and keep your marketing authentic. AI can spot generic products, and so can your customers.

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